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		<title>By: Hannah</title>
		<link>http://www.cookingmanager.com/eating-local-green/comment-page-1/#comment-4980</link>
		<dc:creator>Hannah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jul 2012 14:29:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hi Shonagh, 
I have not thought about that aspect of it. You can argue that employing farm workers in Chile is a better investment.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Shonagh,<br />
I have not thought about that aspect of it. You can argue that employing farm workers in Chile is a better investment.</p>
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		<title>By: Shonagh</title>
		<link>http://www.cookingmanager.com/eating-local-green/comment-page-1/#comment-4979</link>
		<dc:creator>Shonagh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jul 2012 12:25:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I have heard these arguments before in support of not eating locally.  One thing I question is whether the human cost is calculated.  As in the price that workers are paid to pick produce on industrial farms.  If we look at the issue from a pure economics perspective, which has a tendency to be reductionist (ie. define green using carbon emissions) then maybe local eating isn&#039;t better.  I prefer to define green broadly and include community impact, worker salary not to mention the joy of eating beautiful produce with character.

Thanks for the post!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have heard these arguments before in support of not eating locally.  One thing I question is whether the human cost is calculated.  As in the price that workers are paid to pick produce on industrial farms.  If we look at the issue from a pure economics perspective, which has a tendency to be reductionist (ie. define green using carbon emissions) then maybe local eating isn&#8217;t better.  I prefer to define green broadly and include community impact, worker salary not to mention the joy of eating beautiful produce with character.</p>
<p>Thanks for the post!</p>
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		<title>By: Hannah</title>
		<link>http://www.cookingmanager.com/eating-local-green/comment-page-1/#comment-4960</link>
		<dc:creator>Hannah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Jul 2012 05:23:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Yosefa, you make some good points. If you live in a climate where there is a variety of produce available year round, you are in good shape, but that isn&#039;t true for most.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yosefa, you make some good points. If you live in a climate where there is a variety of produce available year round, you are in good shape, but that isn&#8217;t true for most.</p>
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		<title>By: Julie Rosenzweig</title>
		<link>http://www.cookingmanager.com/eating-local-green/comment-page-1/#comment-4953</link>
		<dc:creator>Julie Rosenzweig</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Jun 2012 08:20:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The locavorism versus economic efficiency conflict (if it really exists) reminds me of another perceived conflict -- that between shopping locally and living frugally.

For instance, Pa&#039;amonim -- an organization that helps families learn how to balance their budgets and get/stay out of debt (obviously a worthy initiative) -- recommends, among its many useful savings tips, shopping for food at &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.paamonim.org/articles.php?att=10&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&quot;big box&quot;-type stores&lt;/a&gt; (generally located on the outskirts of localities, meaning that you have to drive to them in your private car), rather than at smaller, presumably more expensive, nearby supermarkets. 

Is this a real conflict, or an illusory one? To the smart-growth, anti-urban-sprawl crowd, big box shopping centers are the ultimate in unsustainability. Yet one could probably argue that they offer major savings to families, even after one takes fuel costs into account. 

I suspect that in both the locavore and local-shopping instances, the solution lies somewhere in the middle. 

Regarding locavorism, one can buy locally-grown food when that food is obviously best grown in the local climate or offers quality/social benefits that one is willing to pay more for, while happily consuming non-local food items whose quality is not affected by the distance factor. 

In the case of big box centers, perhaps the best solution is to bring them closer to town, as described in the following &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.theatlanticcities.com/neighborhoods/2012/02/why-town-big-box-stores-might-not-be-awful-you-think/1191/&quot; / rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Atlantic Cities article&lt;/a&gt;.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The locavorism versus economic efficiency conflict (if it really exists) reminds me of another perceived conflict &#8212; that between shopping locally and living frugally.</p>
<p>For instance, Pa&#8217;amonim &#8212; an organization that helps families learn how to balance their budgets and get/stay out of debt (obviously a worthy initiative) &#8212; recommends, among its many useful savings tips, shopping for food at <a href="http://www.paamonim.org/articles.php?att=10" rel="nofollow">&#8220;big box&#8221;-type stores</a> (generally located on the outskirts of localities, meaning that you have to drive to them in your private car), rather than at smaller, presumably more expensive, nearby supermarkets. </p>
<p>Is this a real conflict, or an illusory one? To the smart-growth, anti-urban-sprawl crowd, big box shopping centers are the ultimate in unsustainability. Yet one could probably argue that they offer major savings to families, even after one takes fuel costs into account. </p>
<p>I suspect that in both the locavore and local-shopping instances, the solution lies somewhere in the middle. </p>
<p>Regarding locavorism, one can buy locally-grown food when that food is obviously best grown in the local climate or offers quality/social benefits that one is willing to pay more for, while happily consuming non-local food items whose quality is not affected by the distance factor. </p>
<p>In the case of big box centers, perhaps the best solution is to bring them closer to town, as described in the following <a href="http://www.theatlanticcities.com/neighborhoods/2012/02/why-town-big-box-stores-might-not-be-awful-you-think/1191/" / rel="nofollow">Atlantic Cities article</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: Yosefa</title>
		<link>http://www.cookingmanager.com/eating-local-green/comment-page-1/#comment-4950</link>
		<dc:creator>Yosefa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Jun 2012 14:55:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I listened to the podcast and also found it very interesting. Their point about how it is much more economical and ecologically efficient to grow tomatoes in Spain rather than England made a lot of sense. However, I think that they missed or glossed over some of the reasons people eat locally. Below are a few reasons I can think of the top of my head, whether or not they have a scientific foundation.

- The sooner you eat produce after it is picked, the more nutrients it retains.
- Produce that is meant for transport is often picked before it is ripe and is cultivated to be sturdy, not tasty or healthy.
- Eating food that is in season and naturally grows where you live is healthier for your body and a more natural way to live.
- Farmers who are selling directly to consumers at farmers markets have more incentive to sell high quality flavorful produce, rather that just have a high output of quantity.
- People like meeting the people who grow their food, and they feel the food is grown under safer, more sanitary conditions.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I listened to the podcast and also found it very interesting. Their point about how it is much more economical and ecologically efficient to grow tomatoes in Spain rather than England made a lot of sense. However, I think that they missed or glossed over some of the reasons people eat locally. Below are a few reasons I can think of the top of my head, whether or not they have a scientific foundation.</p>
<p>- The sooner you eat produce after it is picked, the more nutrients it retains.<br />
- Produce that is meant for transport is often picked before it is ripe and is cultivated to be sturdy, not tasty or healthy.<br />
- Eating food that is in season and naturally grows where you live is healthier for your body and a more natural way to live.<br />
- Farmers who are selling directly to consumers at farmers markets have more incentive to sell high quality flavorful produce, rather that just have a high output of quantity.<br />
- People like meeting the people who grow their food, and they feel the food is grown under safer, more sanitary conditions.</p>
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		<title>By: Hannah</title>
		<link>http://www.cookingmanager.com/eating-local-green/comment-page-1/#comment-4949</link>
		<dc:creator>Hannah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Jun 2012 19:52:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hi Julie. I don&#039;t think there&#039;s a simple answer to these questions, although I suspect hothouse tomatoes grown nearby aren&#039;t as good as Spanish ones. Thanks for the link about the urban planning--interesting.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Julie. I don&#8217;t think there&#8217;s a simple answer to these questions, although I suspect hothouse tomatoes grown nearby aren&#8217;t as good as Spanish ones. Thanks for the link about the urban planning&#8211;interesting.</p>
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		<title>By: Julie Rosenzweig</title>
		<link>http://www.cookingmanager.com/eating-local-green/comment-page-1/#comment-4948</link>
		<dc:creator>Julie Rosenzweig</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Jun 2012 03:11:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Doesn&#039;t the &quot;efficient&quot; growing of a &quot;single type of food on a large farm&quot; tend to produce industrial-type vegetables that are low on flavor?

There seems to be a consensus these days that residing in compact, walkable urban neighborhoods is greener. However, there is no such consensus specifically regarding &lt;b&gt;highrises&lt;/b&gt;. Many urbanists re arguing that you can get equal or better density (as well as better aesthetics) with low and mid-rise dwellings of timeless, traditional design. Here is one article among many on the topic: &lt;a href=&quot;http://bettercities.net/news-opinion/blogs/ed-mcmahon/17989/density-without-high-rises&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt; Density without highrises?&lt;/a&gt; .]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Doesn&#8217;t the &#8220;efficient&#8221; growing of a &#8220;single type of food on a large farm&#8221; tend to produce industrial-type vegetables that are low on flavor?</p>
<p>There seems to be a consensus these days that residing in compact, walkable urban neighborhoods is greener. However, there is no such consensus specifically regarding <b>highrises</b>. Many urbanists re arguing that you can get equal or better density (as well as better aesthetics) with low and mid-rise dwellings of timeless, traditional design. Here is one article among many on the topic: <a href="http://bettercities.net/news-opinion/blogs/ed-mcmahon/17989/density-without-high-rises" rel="nofollow"> Density without highrises?</a> .</p>
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		<title>By: Hannah</title>
		<link>http://www.cookingmanager.com/eating-local-green/comment-page-1/#comment-4947</link>
		<dc:creator>Hannah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Jun 2012 02:47:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Rachel, good question. The podcast mentioned that as far as nutrition there was no benefit to eating locally. It didn&#039;t go into detail. Of course, everyone used to eat locally and get what they needed. The question is how much that system can work for our much larger populations. 
As for freshness, yes, it&#039;s preferable. The question is how much do we pay for the privilege?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rachel, good question. The podcast mentioned that as far as nutrition there was no benefit to eating locally. It didn&#8217;t go into detail. Of course, everyone used to eat locally and get what they needed. The question is how much that system can work for our much larger populations.<br />
As for freshness, yes, it&#8217;s preferable. The question is how much do we pay for the privilege?</p>
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		<title>By: Rachel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rachel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Jun 2012 21:23:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[But what about the food itself?  Transporting to areas further away means more time sitting on a truck, which is emitting its own greenhouses gases all over our food!  The food also risks growing mold while in transport for extended periods of time.  Also, doesn&#039;t transporting to other places require picking fruits and vegetables before they are ripe?  Which I am not sure exactly how effects our health, but certainly effects the taste.  So while maybe it doesn&#039;t save out so much on the global environmental effect, does eating local not make for healthier eating?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>But what about the food itself?  Transporting to areas further away means more time sitting on a truck, which is emitting its own greenhouses gases all over our food!  The food also risks growing mold while in transport for extended periods of time.  Also, doesn&#8217;t transporting to other places require picking fruits and vegetables before they are ripe?  Which I am not sure exactly how effects our health, but certainly effects the taste.  So while maybe it doesn&#8217;t save out so much on the global environmental effect, does eating local not make for healthier eating?</p>
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